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contributor sam stein of the "the huffington post," former hillary clinton adviser and deputy new york city mayor howard wolfson, msnbc contributor and queen bee of thegrio.com joy reid and buzz feed editor in chief always busy ben smith. the first presidential debate that hour and a half spectacle of ob fewcation, confusion, triumph and exhaustion may be ancient history by the end of today, maybe. new numbers show the nation's unemployed rate dropped to 7.8%. the lowest number since president obama took office in 2009. while the economy added a relatively modest 114,000 jobs in september, new revisions show that july and august saw a combined increase of 86,000 more jobs than originally reported. needless to say, those numbers put a certain pep back in president obama's step. >> more americans entered the work force, more people are getting jobs. now every month reminds us that we've still got too many of our friends and neighbors looking for work. today's news certainly is not an excuse to try to talk down the economy to score a few political points. it's a reminder that this country
contributor sam stein of the "the huffington post," former hillary clinton adviser and deputy new york city mayor howard wolfson, msnbc contributor and queen bee of thegrio.com joy reid and buzz feed editor in chief always busy ben smith. the first presidential debate that hour and a half spectacle of ob fewcation, confusion, triumph and exhaustion may be ancient history by the end of today, maybe. new numbers show the nation's unemployed rate dropped to 7.8%. the lowest number since...
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bill clinton just good enough. and president bush, he'll have to do much better. >> by morning, what had been last night's analysis had become conventional wiwisdom. in the headlines. on the "today" show. >> clinton did what he had to do and bush did not. >> and in instant polls. >> those polls show the president finishing third among people who watched the first debate. >> the bush people are getting very, very tired of hearing that the president did not hit a home run last night. >> so at this point as a nation, in our entire history as a country, we have had four national attempts of a challenger making his television debate debut against the sitting president of the united states. and after doing this four times as a nation, the record for incumbent presidents facing these challengers is 0-4. okay. so now 1996, incumbent president is that now not as young man from arkansas, bill clinton, and his challenger that year is bob dole. did bob dole really beat incumbent bill clinton in their first debate? actually, no
bill clinton just good enough. and president bush, he'll have to do much better. >> by morning, what had been last night's analysis had become conventional wiwisdom. in the headlines. on the "today" show. >> clinton did what he had to do and bush did not. >> and in instant polls. >> those polls show the president finishing third among people who watched the first debate. >> the bush people are getting very, very tired of hearing that the president did not...
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. >> also on the list, bill clinton, he made that big old splash in the dnc. why was his presidency such a success? >> i think it was him helping the democratic party. helping ending the motion of the a robust welfare state and really modernizing the democratic party and making it more business friendly. >> is there someone who this yale historian decided was the worst president? >> he did not ran rank the worst president of the last 100 years. >> but president obama made that cut, being the most recent. not only even that. i think he was a path breaking president, you look at health care reform. it it it's. >> okay, thank you so much. >> what it takes to prepare to moderate a presidential debate. former abc news news anchor joins us in the next hour with her experience. and the next. there's cash flow options from pnc. solutions to help businesses like yours accelerate receivables, manage payments, and help ensure access to credit. because we know how important cash flow is to reaching your goals. pnc bank. for the achiever in you. there's natural gas under m
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. >> bill clinton was on the other side of that equation while debating another 73 year old. this one was former senator bob dole. clinton handled the issue this way. >> i don't think senator bill is too old to be president. it's the age of his ideas that i question. >> so we'll have to wait and see if there is a memorable moment tonight that can shape the final month of the race. sometimes it is a one liner. sometimes it is a facial expression. >>> white house soup of the day. that is good soup. i wish i were eating it today. coconut shrimp. you are watching "the daily rundown" on msnbc. [ female announcer ] ready for a taste of what's hot? check out the latest collection of snacks from lean cuisine. creamy spinach artichoke dip, crispy garlic chicken spring rolls. they're this season's must-have accessory. lean cuisine. be culinary chic. with a vial and syringe. me, explaining what i was doing at breakfast. and me discovering novolog mix 70/30 flexpen. flexpen is pre-filled with your pre-mix insulin. dial the exact dose. inject by pushing a button. no vials, syringes or coo
. >> bill clinton was on the other side of that equation while debating another 73 year old. this one was former senator bob dole. clinton handled the issue this way. >> i don't think senator bill is too old to be president. it's the age of his ideas that i question. >> so we'll have to wait and see if there is a memorable moment tonight that can shape the final month of the race. sometimes it is a one liner. sometimes it is a facial expression. >>> white house soup...
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clinton did his thing on his own. and the public saw his warmth and his ability to connect with people and they liked that. george bush blew that question you showed a part of. that was the good part of his answer, but when he first heard the question, he was like, i don't get it and people remember that he said i don't get it. and that was about the economy. and that's what people were feeling and hurting. >> when we talk about the fact you were the last female journalist to have access to a presidential debate like this and would you remind everybody that gwen eiffel moderated the '04 debate, an honor, but not a game changer, but you did write a piece -- we have candy crowley, who has the duties for one of these debates. you say don't forget, you will be treated differently because you are a woman. how is it different for women or minority moderators, when it comes to those tough questions on a woman's right to choose. is there an extra cautious line women need to take in asking that? >> she's not going to have the
clinton did his thing on his own. and the public saw his warmth and his ability to connect with people and they liked that. george bush blew that question you showed a part of. that was the good part of his answer, but when he first heard the question, he was like, i don't get it and people remember that he said i don't get it. and that was about the economy. and that's what people were feeling and hurting. >> when we talk about the fact you were the last female journalist to have access...
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parker can feel your pain just like bill clinton. i think one of the tasks for mitt romney is to prove he can feel your pain, not just inflict it. up next, what difference does it make when your president is also your friend? at least on facebook. thanks, parker. i appreciate it. >> nice job. ♪ ♪ ♪ we're lucky, it's not every day you find a companion as loyal as a subaru. love. it's what makes a subaru, a subaru. ♪ spread a little love my way ♪ ♪ spread a little something to remember ♪ [ female announcer ] fresh milk and real cream makes philadelphia and the moment a little richer. so it can feel like you're using nothing at all. but neosporin® eczema essentials™ is different. its multi-action formula restores visibly healthier skin in 3 days. neosporin® eczema essentials™. is efficiently absorbed in small continuous amounts. citracal slow release continuously releases calcium plus d with efficient absorption in one daily dose. citracal slow release. oh, hey alex. just picking up some, brochures, posters copies of
parker can feel your pain just like bill clinton. i think one of the tasks for mitt romney is to prove he can feel your pain, not just inflict it. up next, what difference does it make when your president is also your friend? at least on facebook. thanks, parker. i appreciate it. >> nice job. ♪ ♪ ♪ we're lucky, it's not every day you find a companion as loyal as a subaru. love. it's what makes a subaru, a subaru. ♪ spread a little love my way ♪ ♪ spread a little something to...
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bill clinton a master of the form. what is the biggest lesson the president has learned from bill clinton's performance at the dnc? >> i think ultimately what president clinton did was crystallize the economic argument and economic choice before us, because we built the economy from the middle class out during the 1990s. you saw where that led us to a government surplus in 23 million jobs created. the republicans in the next decade, did all the same sorts of things that mitt romney would like to do today, passed a tax cut for the wealthiest that led to the lowest pace of job creation since world war ii, stripped back oversight from wall street a financial house of cards that collapsed in 2008. so president clinton made clear this isn't some sort of economic theory, we've tried these policies before and you saw where we ended up. let's pursue those that work. >> ben in terms of the strategy, we were talking about the fact that mitt romney has been trotting out i won't call it stakes, maybe dried pieces of chicken in ter
bill clinton a master of the form. what is the biggest lesson the president has learned from bill clinton's performance at the dnc? >> i think ultimately what president clinton did was crystallize the economic argument and economic choice before us, because we built the economy from the middle class out during the 1990s. you saw where that led us to a government surplus in 23 million jobs created. the republicans in the next decade, did all the same sorts of things that mitt romney would...
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here comes bill clinton. he was at oxford during the vietnam war and participating in protests over there. george bush sr. on the campaign trail and the republicans started to play this up and coming close to questioning the patriotism of xwlibill clinton. bush brought it up and they went to clinton for a response. they think it can work here again. this is when we learned what a great and masterful communicator bill clinton is. this is how he handled it. >> i honor your service in world war ii. i honor mr. perot's service in the uniform and the service of any man and women who served, including admiral who is your chairman of the joint chiefs supporting me. when joe mccarthy went around this country attacking people's patriotism, he was wrong. he was wrong. and a senator from connecticut stood up to him named prescott bush, your father was right to stand up to joe mccarthy. you are wrong to attack my patriotism. i was opposed to the war, but i loved my country. we need a president who will bring this country
here comes bill clinton. he was at oxford during the vietnam war and participating in protests over there. george bush sr. on the campaign trail and the republicans started to play this up and coming close to questioning the patriotism of xwlibill clinton. bush brought it up and they went to clinton for a response. they think it can work here again. this is when we learned what a great and masterful communicator bill clinton is. this is how he handled it. >> i honor your service in world...
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secretary clinton is brilliant as a diplomat, she is trying to pull together what she has got. but the fact of the matter is, we're coming out. the taliban knows it. so does the karzai government, why would this not be a bad situation? >> so looking at history, sir, is the u.s. the soviet union? >> well, no, not at all. we're actually in there, and i think in a legitimate way. with a punitive expedition to try to respond to the attack, which was launched and coordinated from afghanistan. and, so i think the intervention was legitimate. it was flawed execution, starting with the bush team. president obama surged more forces in there, did some good on the ground. but it didn't produce an afghan government that was competent, and had some sense integrity, the key to afghanistan is pakistan, and possibly, they're on the verge of unraveling also, potentially with nuclear weapons, so tough situation for america. >> yes, you have to be sitting down when you here those statements, thank you. >>> and now to number four, it appears michael vick may own a dog, the evidence comes from a tw
secretary clinton is brilliant as a diplomat, she is trying to pull together what she has got. but the fact of the matter is, we're coming out. the taliban knows it. so does the karzai government, why would this not be a bad situation? >> so looking at history, sir, is the u.s. the soviet union? >> well, no, not at all. we're actually in there, and i think in a legitimate way. with a punitive expedition to try to respond to the attack, which was launched and coordinated from...
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then clinton and bob dole. >> howard dean said that president obama should not make the same mistake al gore did in 2000 against george w. bush. >> that's not the way america's meant to be. >> and there, there's nixon with the flop sweat. george h.w. bush looking at his watch. appearances count, don't they? >> they really do. and a professional knows that. george h.w. bush in that debate, that third one in richmond in 1992, he was looking at his watch because he was trying to make the point that one of the other candidates had run over time. it didn't really compute this was sending the message that he was impatient, just the kind of message he didn't want to send. >> humor can be an effective tool, diffuse a weakness. >> i will not make age an issue of this campaign. i am not going to exploit for political purposes my opponent's youth and inexperience. >> and at that moment, a lot of people said well, there's the ball game. including his opponent. >> including walter mondale. >> what do you think about humor as a tool in this debate tonight? >> you'd better be a very accomplished ac
then clinton and bob dole. >> howard dean said that president obama should not make the same mistake al gore did in 2000 against george w. bush. >> that's not the way america's meant to be. >> and there, there's nixon with the flop sweat. george h.w. bush looking at his watch. appearances count, don't they? >> they really do. and a professional knows that. george h.w. bush in that debate, that third one in richmond in 1992, he was looking at his watch because he was...
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i really do have a great deal of respect for secretary of state clinton. she's an extraordinary person within american politics. i don't know if she's the next president after this one. let's get through this election first. >>> up next, what becomes of losing vice presidential candidates. it's time for a pop quiz. we've got stickers. >> you know who loves debates? who? >> the fishes. the fish eat bait. >> i get. it's a thinker. i like that. >> it is a thinker. big bird, everyone. ♪ [ male announcer ] jill and her mouth have lived a great life. but she has some dental issues she's not happy about. so i introduced jill to crest pro-health for life. selected for people over 50. pro-health for life is a toothpaste that defends against tender, inflamed gums, sensitivity and weak enamel. conditions people over 50 experience. crest pro-health for life. so jill can keep living the good life. crest. life opens up when you do. that's 3 moves, 5 jobs, 2 newborns. it's no wonder i'm getting gray. but kate -- still looks like...kate. with nice'n easy, all they see i
i really do have a great deal of respect for secretary of state clinton. she's an extraordinary person within american politics. i don't know if she's the next president after this one. let's get through this election first. >>> up next, what becomes of losing vice presidential candidates. it's time for a pop quiz. we've got stickers. >> you know who loves debates? who? >> the fishes. the fish eat bait. >> i get. it's a thinker. i like that. >> it is a thinker....
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and if you take, again, obama's performance, against hillary clinton, when he attacked hillary clinton, he came off as arrogant and sort of -- it didn't come off well. i think that's what's he's got to try and draw a line there. and when you go into this town hall debate, at the risk of being prematurely sitting expectations, that is obama's format. he's got to be favored going into that, that's the kind of format he does best in. but can he draw distinctions and go after mitt romney and attack him on his positions and call him the flip-flopper without coming off as the arrogant obama we saw him in the primaries. >> my thanks to karen finney and chris wilson. thank you so much. >> thanks. >>> just a month away from the elections. two new polls show president obama with an enormous lead over mitt romney among latinos in two key swing states. the number of from latino voters show mr. obama leading romney 78 to 17% in nevada. and in florida, obama leads romney 61 to 31%. romney has had a problem connecting with hispanics for months, and in just the past few days, began a new push to try t
and if you take, again, obama's performance, against hillary clinton, when he attacked hillary clinton, he came off as arrogant and sort of -- it didn't come off well. i think that's what's he's got to try and draw a line there. and when you go into this town hall debate, at the risk of being prematurely sitting expectations, that is obama's format. he's got to be favored going into that, that's the kind of format he does best in. but can he draw distinctions and go after mitt romney and attack...
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gore narrowly won that and so did clinton. record 3-1-1. in 2000 and '04, dick cheney dispatched his opponents. and in '08 palin outdid expectations but biden clearly won as did obama pushing the record to 6-1-1. five times in a row and six out of eight that the winner of the vp debate has gone on to win the election. various people in the media have wanted to declare
gore narrowly won that and so did clinton. record 3-1-1. in 2000 and '04, dick cheney dispatched his opponents. and in '08 palin outdid expectations but biden clearly won as did obama pushing the record to 6-1-1. five times in a row and six out of eight that the winner of the vp debate has gone on to win the election. various people in the media have wanted to declare
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hillary clinton. what was her greatest achievement? let's look at the picture you took of her. you had to fight through the staff to get near it. that is a gorgeous picture. >> thank you. >> great photography. she should really want to have that picture. >> i wanted to give it to her for her campaign. >> got a rough time traveling the world every three minutes but she'll look like that again when she gets out of office. your thoughts of her as a person and a public figure. >> she is very gracious and very brilliant and we're so lucky to have her. >> my feeling about hillary and i've been tough on her and i take it all back. i do it every week. politics is rough and journalism on politics is tough. i'm with her, when i'm with her i fall for her. there is a claharm that doesn't come across on tv. >> well she is. she is brilliant. >> we know that. >> she does an incredible job. but she is also real. when i first got here in the house and then my husband and i married and i was expecting twins, you know, the president and secretary clinton invited us over for dinner. we went upstai
hillary clinton. what was her greatest achievement? let's look at the picture you took of her. you had to fight through the staff to get near it. that is a gorgeous picture. >> thank you. >> great photography. she should really want to have that picture. >> i wanted to give it to her for her campaign. >> got a rough time traveling the world every three minutes but she'll look like that again when she gets out of office. your thoughts of her as a person and a public...
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hillary clinton. what is her greatest achievement? let's see the picture you took of her. i hear you had to cut through the staff to get to it. that's great photography. >> thank you. i wanted to give it to her for the campaign. >> she's had a rough time traveling the world every three minutes but she'll look like that again when she gets out of the office. but your thoughts about her as a person and public figure? >> she's very gracious, she's very brilliant and we are so lucky to have her as our -- >> my feeling about hillary, i take it back again, i really do, because politics is rough and journalism and politics is tough but every time i'm with her, i just fall for her. there's a charm for that person that doesn't come across on tvs as well as it should. your thoughts, senator? >> well, she is. she's brilliant. but she is also real. when i first got here in the house and then my husband and i married and i was expecting twins, you know, the president and secretary clinton invited us over for dinner. we went upstairs and had chicken in the residence quarters and she had
hillary clinton. what is her greatest achievement? let's see the picture you took of her. i hear you had to cut through the staff to get to it. that's great photography. >> thank you. i wanted to give it to her for the campaign. >> she's had a rough time traveling the world every three minutes but she'll look like that again when she gets out of the office. but your thoughts about her as a person and public figure? >> she's very gracious, she's very brilliant and we are so...
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that's what they've dope with clinton. it's still true. bill clinton today up in new hampshire again, sealed the deal again. he will do it in pennsylvania, he will do it in ohio, and when the time comes, he'll do it in wisconsin. they're going to own the rust belt, the democrats, because of this united party. that's what i think is really important this election. >> and you've got it on politics and you've got it on policy. you've got bill clinton in new hampshire stumping for president obama today. and today with this crisis in syria, in turkey, with this ongoing crisis in libya, you've got hillary clinton out there, the tip of the sphere, the administration, she's going press availabilities with the foreign minister of kazakhstan today. she's absolutely integrated into the obama administration with no question of any division between them. i think that's -- i think to the extent that the clinton popularity in those rust belt states still explains enthusiasm that, i think that's exactly right. >>> all right, we've got lots to come, includ
that's what they've dope with clinton. it's still true. bill clinton today up in new hampshire again, sealed the deal again. he will do it in pennsylvania, he will do it in ohio, and when the time comes, he'll do it in wisconsin. they're going to own the rust belt, the democrats, because of this united party. that's what i think is really important this election. >> and you've got it on politics and you've got it on policy. you've got bill clinton in new hampshire stumping for president...
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for that matter, good economic numbers helped bill clinton in 1996. back then, conservatives and republicans didn't make this kind of stuff up. but what's also insidious here is that the people who collect economic data for our government are really good. they really care about the integrity of their numbers. if there was something wrong here, they would cry to the heavens to say, somebody is manipulating these numbers. >> yeah, but the point is, if somebody was manipulating the numbers, why have high unemployment numbers in the first place? the problem, e.j. -- and i want you to weigh in on this, too, joan, they are now reaching to find a rational for why romney is running. if unemployment is now going down, if you have 30 months of private job creation, if you have bin laden dead, why is romney running? that's the problem they are getting if these numbers are out and they are out and they are valid numbers. >> he's losing rationale, and, you know, he began to lie today on the campaign trail because i think he said, what's happening is that people ar
for that matter, good economic numbers helped bill clinton in 1996. back then, conservatives and republicans didn't make this kind of stuff up. but what's also insidious here is that the people who collect economic data for our government are really good. they really care about the integrity of their numbers. if there was something wrong here, they would cry to the heavens to say, somebody is manipulating these numbers. >> yeah, but the point is, if somebody was manipulating the numbers,...
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up in that debate with hillary clinton. >> right. >> again, that is who he is. i think we are totally for getting that. >> not only that, but i think we're also for getting that both of these men, to your point, they were who they always have been, even in governing. barack obama has infuriated his own base because of this perception that he doesn't fight hard enough. >> recurrent theme. >> it's a recurrent theme. with mitt romney the recurrent theme among republicans, the reason he doesn't have a lot of frentsds in his party is the idea that he's a vicious debater. newt gingrich called him a liar in which he demolished supposedly the best debater in the republican party and he is known to be a flip-flopper. what did he do in that debate, he flip-flopped. everybody played the type. >> dedrick's point is smart about mitt romney in some ways was the beneficiary of lowered expectations and the beneficiary of the success of the obama campaign as painting him as a character of a ba foonish budocrat. by the time john kerry took the debate stage the bush campaign had d
up in that debate with hillary clinton. >> right. >> again, that is who he is. i think we are totally for getting that. >> not only that, but i think we're also for getting that both of these men, to your point, they were who they always have been, even in governing. barack obama has infuriated his own base because of this perception that he doesn't fight hard enough. >> recurrent theme. >> it's a recurrent theme. with mitt romney the recurrent theme among...
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bill clinton. businessman ross perot entered the race as an independent candidate and the three major parties -- the two major party agreed to allow him to enter the debate. this is an hour and 40 minutes. >> here now is mr. ross perot. >> good to see you. thank you. how are you? thank you. >> now, governor clinton. [applause] and now, president bush. [applause] >> and about 30 seconds, we will be going on the air. good evening, and welcome to the first of 3 debates among the major candidates for president of the united states, sponsored by the commission on presidential debates. the candidates are: independent candidate ross perot, governor bill clinton, the democratic nominee, and president george bush, the republican nominee. i am jim lehrer of the macneil- lehrer news hour on pbs, and i will be the moderator for this 90-minute event, which is taking place before an audience in the athletic complex on the campus of washington university in st. louis, missouri. three journalists will be asking qu
bill clinton. businessman ross perot entered the race as an independent candidate and the three major parties -- the two major party agreed to allow him to enter the debate. this is an hour and 40 minutes. >> here now is mr. ross perot. >> good to see you. thank you. how are you? thank you. >> now, governor clinton. [applause] and now, president bush. [applause] >> and about 30 seconds, we will be going on the air. good evening, and welcome to the first of 3 debates...
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it goes to governor clinton for a 2 minute question. it is asked by ann compton. >> governor clinton, can yo middle income families can be guaranteed a tax cut or what income level they can be guaraeed no tax increase. >> the tax increase figures in at $200,000 and above. >> they had their incomes go up while taxes down. middle class people defined as people with incomes as $52,000 and down had their incomes go down while th taxes went up in the reagan-bush years because of 6 increases in the payroll taxes. that is where it would trigger. >> there would be no tax increases below -- >> my plan, notwithstanding -- my plan igures in at family incomes of $200,000 and above andgive modest middlerelief to restore faespecially to people with incomes below in addition to that, the money i raise from upper monepeople, if they pay the same income on their income the same as american corporations do, they will give incentives back. i wt to give permant incentives back. a resource and development credit, a long term proposal for business and expans
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against hillary clinton he wasn't a great debater. i have to look at tapes of obama as a debater in congressional races and state senate, he wasn't great. he's a speech maker. as a debater, he's never been good at all. laz night he outdid himself. he had so many allies to go down. whether about women. whether about 47%. whether it was about the fuz fuzziness of romney's policy suggestions on taxes. romney's suggestion the auto business bankrupt. he did not show up. he has to next time. the that you're going to see by tuesday is going to be significant in a lot of states. >> and also the swing in attitude. you look at the wall street journal editorial page. the best republican performance since 1980. bill crystal was saying the same thing last night. i was saying the same thing. i said, this is the best i've seen a republican do since 1980. >> in a generation. i've been very critical. bill crystal has been critical. conservatives have been critical. why can't mitt romney connect the dots? last night he did. how important is that -- for
against hillary clinton he wasn't a great debater. i have to look at tapes of obama as a debater in congressional races and state senate, he wasn't great. he's a speech maker. as a debater, he's never been good at all. laz night he outdid himself. he had so many allies to go down. whether about women. whether about 47%. whether it was about the fuz fuzziness of romney's policy suggestions on taxes. romney's suggestion the auto business bankrupt. he did not show up. he has to next time. the that...
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>> well, in terms of obama, the great question the democratic presidents have been asking since clinton is, can you get a non-judge on the court? kagen was not a judge, but her background was judge-like. we were discussing earlier, the court that decided the board of education, one of the justices, not one had been a full time judge before. when alida replaced o'connor, they were all federal court judges. that is a terrible lack of diversity. she knew what it was like to raise money. >> she was a former state legislature. a lot of what comes in front of the court are sta chte statutes. >> for the middle. >> citizens united is a case that talks about giving money to campaigns as if it's a first amendment speech driven process. a politician may say, can i tell you what goes on, why people give money to campaigns? >> yeah. >> i would think, if this president is reelected, because there are so few court of appeals judges who are the right age, he will have to look outside the judiciary, which i agree, is a great thing. it's not only understanding how government works, it's understanding peo
>> well, in terms of obama, the great question the democratic presidents have been asking since clinton is, can you get a non-judge on the court? kagen was not a judge, but her background was judge-like. we were discussing earlier, the court that decided the board of education, one of the justices, not one had been a full time judge before. when alida replaced o'connor, they were all federal court judges. that is a terrible lack of diversity. she knew what it was like to raise money....
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. >>> now, governor clinton. thank you. >>> now, president sh. >>> about 30 seconds we'll go on the air. >>> good evening and welcome to the first of 3 ndidates for presidentf jor the united states sponsored by the commission on presidential debates. the candidates are: independent candidate ross perot, governor bill clinton, the democratic nominee, and presiden george bush. >> i am jim lehrer. i will be the moderator for this 90 minute event. thisis on the campus of washington university, in st. louis, missouri. 3 journalists will be asking questions, john mashek, ann compton of abc news, and sander vanocur. >> we will follow a format agreed to agreed by the clinton and bush campaigns. that contains no restriions on the content or subject matter of the questions. each candidate will haveup to 2 minutes for a closing atement. the order of those as well as the questioning was determined by a drawing. the first question goes to mr. perot. he wl have 2 minutes to answer to be followed by rebuttals of 1 minute each b
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bill clinton, lord knows, that's what it was all about with that guy. and this guy, i mean, can't do it at all. by the way, that's also the magic of the tea party movement. >> can't you imagine having some caviar with mitt romney? bellinis? >> with special spoons you have to eat it with. it can't be silver. it's got to be whatever it is. i'm sure mitt romney can tell you all about it. he just can't switch it on. not only that, this is the republican party and conservatism generally has been coasting on this notion, this sort of populist aura that hoverses around them and he's the opposite, you know. he's -- i was reading this great story in "rolling stone" the other day by matt taibbi about how mitt romney is like all of the terrible movie villains of the last 30 years. you know, he's the rich fraternity boy that's such a snob to the guys in animal house, right? you go down the list of movie villains and this is the kind of guy. perfectly, well coifed executives who fire everybody. >> thomas, i'm so grateful to you, but i'm afraid we've run out of time.
bill clinton, lord knows, that's what it was all about with that guy. and this guy, i mean, can't do it at all. by the way, that's also the magic of the tea party movement. >> can't you imagine having some caviar with mitt romney? bellinis? >> with special spoons you have to eat it with. it can't be silver. it's got to be whatever it is. i'm sure mitt romney can tell you all about it. he just can't switch it on. not only that, this is the republican party and conservatism generally...
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bring bill clinton as his debate coach." that's one person's opinion of the matter. nevertheless, no chance in that happening, but we know from what david axelrod has said and others, there will likely be a strategy change for the president in the next debate. >> no one knows why the president didn't do as well. i think that you're going to see a more focused president obama. actually, a more focused obama campaign team on preparation. this is a conversation we had about mitt romney and a lot of things he said shouldn't have been too surprising given all the republican debates we had seen over the past year or so. and president obama was caught flat-footed, his campaign was flat-footed. we'll see if the adjustments they end up making as david axelrod promised. >> what's the early word on the vice presidential debates? you have democrats off the record worried knowing that biden could give a make moment or a break moment. >> it's most watched tv. it's important to note that paul ryan has never been on this stage before. joe biden, given he's run for president twice, i
bring bill clinton as his debate coach." that's one person's opinion of the matter. nevertheless, no chance in that happening, but we know from what david axelrod has said and others, there will likely be a strategy change for the president in the next debate. >> no one knows why the president didn't do as well. i think that you're going to see a more focused president obama. actually, a more focused obama campaign team on preparation. this is a conversation we had about mitt romney...
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and bill clinton tried the approach i'm talking about. we created 23 million new jobs. we went from deficit to surplus. and businesses did very well. >> you know what i hear and i hear it in the president's speeches, he's still working the interest groups rather than selling a national plan. he keeps talking about more teachers. he doesn't necessarily push education he pushes more teachers and he'll refurbish the school buildings. grant it the aft like it maybe your people like it but it isn't a national plan for economic development and tonight they said what's your difference and that's all he could come up with is something about the teachers. where's the national macroeconomic plan to get us out of these doldrums. >> i think he talks about education in a much different way as well. and not just talk about. he's done it. he talked about the "race to the top" tonight. as a former urban school superintendent that's done more to reform schools across the country than anything else the federal government has ever done but there needs to be more than that as well. he's ta
and bill clinton tried the approach i'm talking about. we created 23 million new jobs. we went from deficit to surplus. and businesses did very well. >> you know what i hear and i hear it in the president's speeches, he's still working the interest groups rather than selling a national plan. he keeps talking about more teachers. he doesn't necessarily push education he pushes more teachers and he'll refurbish the school buildings. grant it the aft like it maybe your people like it but it...
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barack obama had four debates against hillary clinton, one on one in the 2008 democratic primary, then three debates against john mccain. it's a different dynamic than to be the frontrunner where four or five people are aiming at you throughout a debate. >> here we are on the eve practically of the first debate and it's supposed to be an economic, domestic policy. >> right. >> and now foreign policy has reared its head. we have first of all mitt romney and "the wall street journal" an op-ed, saying that these developments are not as president obama says, mere bumps in the road. they are major issues that put our security at risk, yet amid this upheaval our country seems to be at the mercy of events rather than shaping them, not moving them in a direction that protects our people or allies. and paul ryan just now on the laura engram radio show, saying this about afghanistan. >> that echos also what john mccain said on "morning joe" today. are they trying to change the skubts to get off -- subject to get off 47% and other missteps and perceived problems in their camp or see a real vulner
barack obama had four debates against hillary clinton, one on one in the 2008 democratic primary, then three debates against john mccain. it's a different dynamic than to be the frontrunner where four or five people are aiming at you throughout a debate. >> here we are on the eve practically of the first debate and it's supposed to be an economic, domestic policy. >> right. >> and now foreign policy has reared its head. we have first of all mitt romney and "the wall...
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i think it's -- >> even clinton was going to be tough on china and wasn't. >> sure. he really overshot. he used the butchers of beijing and brought a lot of issues. i think our trade relation with china are generally positive, but there is an area of malfeasance. there is room for improvement. >> too aggressive? >> i don't know. one thing he clearly decided, he's not going to let obama outflank hill on that issue. here's the difference. both can be a bad cop china, but romney's also a good cop to work out a positive trade agenda to grow the economy as well. >> let me ask you about ohio. it's your home state. what's been happening there? maybe things have shrunk. what were you thinking? >> i still get the sense obama's ahead. i think that might have been a obama high point. i think he was trending down, then the debate happened. i just came back from a few days in ohio. i think he's outspending romney on tv there. i think they both have a very strong ground game. sherrod brown's probably a point or two up on that as well. so i think it comes to the next two debates. i
i think it's -- >> even clinton was going to be tough on china and wasn't. >> sure. he really overshot. he used the butchers of beijing and brought a lot of issues. i think our trade relation with china are generally positive, but there is an area of malfeasance. there is room for improvement. >> too aggressive? >> i don't know. one thing he clearly decided, he's not going to let obama outflank hill on that issue. here's the difference. both can be a bad cop china, but...
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some of the evidence suggests from the clinton years, it doesn't produce that. >> yeah, i agree, john. i think he does have to make that case, though. he has to make some sort of affirmative case. i really don't think it's enough for romney to point at obama and say he's doing a bad job. that hasn't gotten him over the hump. and i do think he has to say, look, here's what i'm going to do and here's how it's going to make things better. and if -- if he's going to talk about tax cuts, he's got to explain how that's going to make the life of, well, frankly, the 47% any better. and that's a challenge. >> all right. eugene robinson, thank you. john harwood, thung. chuck todd, we'll see you on the daily rundown. >>> coming up, a showdown in last night's massachusetts race. senator scott brown and elizabeth warren face off in their second televised debate. kelly o'donnell joins us with a live report. but first, some say if we fix the housing market, we'll fix the economy. so how close are we to solving the foreclosure crisis? cnbc's david faber and the founder of the online lending company l
some of the evidence suggests from the clinton years, it doesn't produce that. >> yeah, i agree, john. i think he does have to make that case, though. he has to make some sort of affirmative case. i really don't think it's enough for romney to point at obama and say he's doing a bad job. that hasn't gotten him over the hump. and i do think he has to say, look, here's what i'm going to do and here's how it's going to make things better. and if -- if he's going to talk about tax cuts, he's...
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this is said to have helped bill clinton. bill clinton. in the 1980 republican primary george bush had moment against ronald reagan, until in the debate in new hampshire, there was a moment where reagan looked strong. >> i am paying for this microphone. >> that moment helped change the campaign. >> some o some of them you can . >> read my lips. no new taxes. >> the difference between a hockey mom and a pit bull, lipstick. >> other ones, you got to depend on your candidate seizing a moment you didn't expect to happen. >> there you go again. >> most moments so far this election have been poorly phrased comments. >> if you've got a business, you didn't build that. somebody else made that happen. >> i like being able to fire people that provide services to me. >> they'll put y'all back in chains. >> the media call those gaffes, but often the media don't know. when ed musky lost the '072 primary because he looked like he teared up defending his wife, everyone said candidates can't career, because that's week, but then in 2008 hillary clinton cr
this is said to have helped bill clinton. bill clinton. in the 1980 republican primary george bush had moment against ronald reagan, until in the debate in new hampshire, there was a moment where reagan looked strong. >> i am paying for this microphone. >> that moment helped change the campaign. >> some o some of them you can . >> read my lips. no new taxes. >> the difference between a hockey mom and a pit bull, lipstick. >> other ones, you got to depend on...
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i think bill clinton was able to say things that barack obama couldn't say. he inherited a mess and making it better. >> when we come back it kraig shirley joins us and michael duffy is here. but first here is a check on the forecast. >>> the weather story this morning has been the fog. it has been very dense around philadelphia and new york city. earlier it wasn't that good over reagan international airport. the delay so far has been limited to philadelphia northwards into the new york city airport. here is our fog advisory. all of the new york saelt and philadelphia. airport delays in newark. la guardia two hours away. those airports have those issues. it will begin to ripple across the country. after the fog lifts it will be a warm day. still a few showers in new england and maybe a stray thunderstorm. the october temperature forecast. we have big changes sweeping through the eastern half of the country. much cooler air starting today in the northwest. the exception is going to be all of the west coast. we are going to stay nice and warm. the bottom line t
i think bill clinton was able to say things that barack obama couldn't say. he inherited a mess and making it better. >> when we come back it kraig shirley joins us and michael duffy is here. but first here is a check on the forecast. >>> the weather story this morning has been the fog. it has been very dense around philadelphia and new york city. earlier it wasn't that good over reagan international airport. the delay so far has been limited to philadelphia northwards into the...
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[applause] one of the main reasons record surpluses under bill clinton were turned into record deficits under george bush is because we put two wars and two tax cuts on a credit card. and now governor romney wants another $5 trillion in tax cuts that he can't pay for? not if i have anything to say about it. that's not going to happen. [applause] we are not going to let this country fall backward. not now. not with so much at stake. we've got to move forward. we need to invest in small business and manufacturers who create jobs here in the united states. we need to recruit 100,000 math and science teachers, train two million workers at community college, bring down the cost of college tuition. we need to -- [cheers and applause] we need to cut our oil imports in half. create thousands more jobs in clean energy. we need to use the savings from ending the wars in iraq and afghanistan to help pay down our deficit and put people back to work doing some nation building right here at home. that's the agenda we need. that's how you strengthen the middle class. that's how you keep moving forward
[applause] one of the main reasons record surpluses under bill clinton were turned into record deficits under george bush is because we put two wars and two tax cuts on a credit card. and now governor romney wants another $5 trillion in tax cuts that he can't pay for? not if i have anything to say about it. that's not going to happen. [applause] we are not going to let this country fall backward. not now. not with so much at stake. we've got to move forward. we need to invest in small business...
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second, do you know that when the president was in the senate he and hillary clinton introduced a bill to allow workers to have greater notice but now he doesn't want to comply with the law because these notices will fall right before the election. here is the most disturbing fact. what sequestration does to our national security and this president has not shown leadership and i'm deeply concerned. he should be leading the effort right now in congress to resolve this. >> he is. >> chris: less than a minute left. early indications after the debate that romney got some kind of bump in the polls. i will ask you both briefly, 30 seconds each. governor, where does this race stand right now? >> i think we have three more debates coming up one of i have is the vice presidential campaign where paul ryan has been very specific about what he would do in a budget and that is a budget that would be bad for the economy, bad for job growth. it would increase taxes on 18 million people. and so we have a few more rounds to go in this fight. what we saw in the first one was a very energized performance
second, do you know that when the president was in the senate he and hillary clinton introduced a bill to allow workers to have greater notice but now he doesn't want to comply with the law because these notices will fall right before the election. here is the most disturbing fact. what sequestration does to our national security and this president has not shown leadership and i'm deeply concerned. he should be leading the effort right now in congress to resolve this. >> he is. >>...
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one or two of the clinton debates. i think it could puncture that aura that obama had. i don't think there is any way to be decisive. one thing that is going to help romney simply being on the stage is always true of the challenger. just being on the same stage as the president instantly raises your stature. if he can hold his own and perhaps prevail to the minor extent he will reverse momentum which has been rather negative. last couple of weeks. >> bret: a.b., the -- liste listen, the economy, there are still a lot of concerns. just talking to folks in arapahoe county county there are concerns long-term and concerns about the national debt and deficit. concerns about jobs specifically in colorado. if you look at the markets, from the time the president got in office until now, you can see the chart that we have. it just scales up and up an up. the administration also has a couple of positives in the housing. seeing positive sign in recent week and month. out thing private sector employment growing. they are but on the negative side. you have this list of stories that
one or two of the clinton debates. i think it could puncture that aura that obama had. i don't think there is any way to be decisive. one thing that is going to help romney simply being on the stage is always true of the challenger. just being on the same stage as the president instantly raises your stature. if he can hold his own and perhaps prevail to the minor extent he will reverse momentum which has been rather negative. last couple of weeks. >> bret: a.b., the -- liste listen, the...
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that performance with hillary clinton, she was down. she was defending her basic personality, of who she is. a moment of weakness, he didn't need to dump on her. he needed to show some magazine anymority there. why didn't he respond to that moment? >> looked like he was preparing his next thought and he got drawn into her comment. the skill set for the promise to deliver -- for the president to deliver speeches well is very different than what it takes to debate. the fact that he's on television all the time -- >> he doesn't like to be challenged. this is a guy with supreme confidence in his ability who doesn't like to be questioned and who has held very, very few press conferences. not as few as george w. bush, but very few. >> he can be a little brittle. chris: let's go back to romney's must-do list. as we said, he's prepping to take a knick out of the president's credibility. >> the president tends to, how shall i say it? say things that aren't true. and in attacking his opponents, i've looked at prior debates. chris: at the same tim
that performance with hillary clinton, she was down. she was defending her basic personality, of who she is. a moment of weakness, he didn't need to dump on her. he needed to show some magazine anymority there. why didn't he respond to that moment? >> looked like he was preparing his next thought and he got drawn into her comment. the skill set for the promise to deliver -- for the president to deliver speeches well is very different than what it takes to debate. the fact that he's on...
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people were who were going to do it well i chose not to not to go down that road because he thought that clinton was crazy on the stuff but that was i'm president though we actually ok nine eleven happened i don't know we could have done to stop it i don't know what we could to stop it but we have no no i mean because every year on nine eleven we should be on high alert do you not agree because you know i do agree and we'll leave it at that we'll be right back with more on tonight's presidential debate up with us. download the official location cell phone choose your language stream quality and enjoy your favorites. he is not required to watch all it's all you need is your mobile device seen any time. now for. more news today violence is once again flatow from these are the images the world has been seeing from the streets of canada. corporations are today. well the fact is that it's politics panel on the panels that i haver servo conservative strategist associate with blue skin solutions and blogging it has certainly dot com karl fresh progressive strategist and partner bullfight strategies mar
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people were who were going to do it well i chose not to not to go down that road because he thought that clinton was crazy on the stuff but that was on president though we actually ok nine eleven happened i don't know we could have done to stop it i don't know what we could do to stop it but we have no i mean because every year on nine eleven we should be on high alert do you not agree because you know i do agree and we'll leave it on that we'll be right back with more on tonight's presidential debate it with us. here is mitt romney trying to figure out the meaning of that thing that the americans call. the guy who cares enough about what you say are you know what that is by terrorists. doesn't want to give us a good feature isn't a limp all the chris. you can see your beliefs about it because. you know the corporate media distracts us from what you and i should care about because their profit driven industry that sells us sensationalistic garbage because that breaking news i'm abby martin and we're going to break that. you know sometimes you see a story and it seems so for you think you underst
people were who were going to do it well i chose not to not to go down that road because he thought that clinton was crazy on the stuff but that was on president though we actually ok nine eleven happened i don't know we could have done to stop it i don't know what we could do to stop it but we have no i mean because every year on nine eleven we should be on high alert do you not agree because you know i do agree and we'll leave it on that we'll be right back with more on tonight's presidential...
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those thing to rk with speal olympics with him, and gorbachev about his time in office and with bill clinton and with george bush, and to spend l of this time with george bush at camp david and to do horsese throwing and skeet and trap shooting and to sit in thes meetings -- >> amazing moments for a g from -- unknn kid from austa. >> it'unbelievable, that rid and the book also deals th the determation and the naticieness always keeping the eye othe and you know, the arnd les d ag that helped me get through and get the way i am today. so that's what the book is about. your tever you've done in life, when you've wanted someing badly enough, you've tended to get there. yoclearly would haveiked to pair your marriage to as you said, e e and only love of your life, really. if mia's watching th and she mighwell be watc t you know, i want to win her back anu know, i hope even though she talks out forgiveness, i hope that you really c foive. >> you tnk do you deserve to >> think everyone deserves to be forgiven and get a break. yes, i do. then it'up to me what i do with that. >> you've always been v
those thing to rk with speal olympics with him, and gorbachev about his time in office and with bill clinton and with george bush, and to spend l of this time with george bush at camp david and to do horsese throwing and skeet and trap shooting and to sit in thes meetings -- >> amazing moments for a g from -- unknn kid from austa. >> it'unbelievable, that rid and the book also deals th the determation and the naticieness always keeping the eye othe and you know, the arnd les d ag...